We’re back with another episode of Dixie Dems, the podcast from Lean to the Left that takes an irreverent look at politics in the south, as well as nationwide. We’ll talk about candidates, Trump’s legal troubles, Trump pardon talk, the big Supreme Court gerrymandering decision, and much more.

--- Hey guys, welcome to the Lean to the Left podcast and the June 2023 episode of the Dixie Dems with my partners, Arthur Hill, from North Carolina, and Robert Thompson, from Georgia.

Arthur is first vice chair of the Brunswick County, North Carolina, Democratic party. Robert Thompson is based in Atlanta and founded Peach News Now and its opinion podcast, Got Damn Liberals. Me…I’m based in South Carolina, the state where two Republican candidates are taking on Donald Trump in the Republican presidential sweepstakes.

They, of course, are former SC governor Nikki Haley, former UN ambassador for Trump, and Sen. Tim Scott, the only African American GOP US Senator. Oh, it’s also the state where Sen. Lindsey Graham, still sucking up to Trump despite his indictment for violating the espionage act in that classified records case, said of Trump: At least he isn’t a spy. Good grief.

So, welcome guys… Arthur…tell us about what’s going on in North Carolina? Big state supreme court decision on gerrymandering, right?

How about you, Robert. Looks like Trump’s next legal challenge could come from Georgia, right?

What’s happening in South Carolina?

With two GOP presidential candidates running against Trump, a big question is what would they do if elected about pardoning Donald Trump for his crimes? Well, Nikki Haley says she’d be “inclined” to pardon him even though his actions inciting the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol put first responders in danger. She dragged in the plea deal between the Justice Department and Hunter Biden, saying there’s a double standard…one for Republicans like Trump and another for Democrats like Biden.

Also, on Twitter, Haley accused Barack Obama of dividing America “by race and gender” because he took issue with her claim that America is not racist. Excuse me…but it was her old boss, Trump, who set out to divide America that way and was spectacularly successful. Haley should just shut up.

By the way, while some support Haley for taking down the Confederate flag at the State House when she was governor, the Washington Post reported that she did so only after the massacre at a church in Charleston, where worshipers were murdered by a gunman, forced her hand. She previously had said the flag was “about heritage.”

Meanwhile, when asked what he would do about a Trump pardon, Sen. Tim Scott avoided the question, but said he would “clean out” the Department of Justice. Where was he when Trump was using DOJ as his own personal police force? Please. What do you guys think about how the GOP candidates are twisting themselves into knots over a potential Trump pardon?

Scott visited Myrtle Beach the other day trying to drum up support. He had a pretty good crowd, according to reports, but the problem was that while attendees said they liked him well enough, they still support Trump but would like to see Scott as his vice president. That’s probably not what Scott wanted to hear, unless that’s his angle, anyway. Could be Haley’s angle, too, for that matter.

As for Trump, he’s scheduled to make his first visit to South Carolina since being indicted twice – on Saturday, July 1, at the city of Pickens, ahead of their Independence Day celebration. Can’t wait for that one.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Supreme Court, which earlier this month unexpectedly upheld a prohibition against racial gerrymandering in an Alabama case, has agreed to consider a lower court decision that struck down a congressional district as an illegal racial gerrymander. The lower court held that the congressional district – which...

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The Dixie Dems: Oh, Those Crazy Republicans

[00:00:00] Bob Gatty: Hey, we're back with another episode of Dixie Dems, the podcast from Lean to the Left that takes an irreverent look at politics in the South as well as nationwide. We'll talk about candidates, Trump's legal troubles, the big Supreme Court gerrymandering decision, and much more. So stay with us. 

[00:00:23] Hey guys, welcome to the Lean to the Left Podcast and the June, 2023 episode of the Dixie Dems with my partners Arthur Hill from North Carolina and Robert Thompson from Georgia. Now Arthur is first vice chair of the Brunswick County, North Carolina Democratic Party, and Robert is based in Atlanta. He founded Peach News Now, and its opinion podcast, Got Damn Liberals, that's G O t damn liberals. 

[00:00:55] Me. I'm based in South Carolina, the state where two Republican candidates are taking on Donald Trump in the Republican presidential sweepstakes. They of course are former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, former UN Ambassador for Trump, and Senator Tim Scott, the only African-American G O P US Senator.

[00:01:21] Oh, it's also the state where Senator Lindsey Graham, still sucking up to Trump, despite his indictment for violating the Espionage Act in that classified records case said of Trump, at least he isn't a spy. Good grief. Hey guys. Welcome Arthur. Tell us what's going on in North Carolina. You got a, you've got a big Supreme Court decision on gerrymandering coming up, right?

[00:01:51] Arthur Hill: Yeah, we do. I think, or maybe not it depends on what happens. The State Supreme Court tossed out the gerrymandering decision they made a year ago when Democrats were controlling the, Supreme Court.

[00:02:09] And reinstalled the maps that the legislature had put in earlier. And that became a subject of a federal suit. And the judge in that suit called the maps that that Republicans produced the the most racist they did that they ever seen.

[00:02:32] Now , that's germane because in the case that the US Supreme Court just decided about the Alabama gerrymandering decision they said that that those maps were racist and they would have to be withdrawn. Again, I don't know exactly what the procedure is. I guess the revised maps or the maps that need to be approved again, will be submitted to the State Board of Elections.

[00:02:57] And then depending on the decision that's made there, they'll be sued by the Democrats in federal court and and they'll have a pretty good argument to make that once they were considered racist and maybe they should be considered racist again and to tossed out because of the US Supreme Court's, Alabama decision.

[00:03:18] Little convoluted and involved but, that's what's going on. And we'll see what happens. In the meantime, it's it's really tough to recruit candidates to your cause when you're not real sure what the Congressional districts are gonna be, or those state legislative districts are gonna look like.

[00:03:37] So that's a little bit frustrating from, our point of view. And thankfully we got a little time. The, legislature goes out on July the fourth after they approve the budget and they don't reconvene again till September. We've got some time I guess. But it'd be nice to know.

[00:03:56] If you're running for Congress, it'd be nice to know what your district looks like.

[00:04:00] Bob Gatty: Yeah, that's for sure. We're gonna get to that in South Carolina too, cuz we got some of that redistricting stuff coming up as well. What else you got going on there?

[00:04:13] Arthur Hill: I talked about the budget and nobody really seems to know what the budget is gonna say yet, except that once the budget is approved and, signed by the governor then the provision that allows North Carolina to participate in expanded Medicaid will take effect.

[00:04:37] So everybody's looking forward to that. They're constitutionally required to get the budget out and approved by July the fourth. We should know by then whether or not we got a budget and and, that expanded Medicaid will kick in. Fairly good sign, unless the, republicans in the legislature attach some onerous policy provisions to the budget.

[00:05:02] But again, we haven't heard what that's gonna be, so we're waiting for that. And then the other major feud that's going on right now are changes in the some of the election laws that the Republicans are trying to get through. They want a mandate that absentee ballots have to arrive at the Board of Elections by election day. Before they they allowed a three day hang time following election day for ballots that were postmarked before election day to arrive. Democrats are raising hell about that because they said in the 1920 election 12,000 ballots arrived at the Board of Elections offices after election day that were appropriately postmarked.

[00:05:48] So they're accusing the Republicans of denying the vote to at least 12,000 of those citizens that were, or they would have if, this provision had been in effect. So there's that going on as well. And as usual, it's the battle between Republicans and Democrats over the elements of democracy 

[00:06:08] Bob Gatty: as usual.

[00:06:09] Arthur Hill: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:06:11] Bob Gatty: All right. So what do you have going on, Robert? 

[00:06:14] Robert Thompson: Apparently the lady that you know is elected from Northwest Georgia, she wanted to have her own episode of Dynasty at 

[00:06:25] Bob Gatty: the Lady. The lady, 

[00:06:28] Robert Thompson: if that's what you want to call her. So Marjorie Taylor Green was calling Lauren Boebert a little bitch on the house floor this week.

[00:06:37] Bob Gatty: That's who you're talking about, Marjorie Taylor Green. Yeah. 

[00:06:41] This is wait, a minute. What'd you say? She called Boebert a little bitch. 

[00:06:47] Arthur Hill: She is little.

[00:06:48] Robert Thompson: That's another reason why I wore my pearls today, that this is not very ladylike. These are quite semantics that that are going down. And I guess she was unhappy that there was a vote that was not quite going her way. I'm, not exactly sure. I haven't seen these kind of antics since I watched shows like Dynasty back in the eighties with these ladies snatching hair and wanting to throw down like this.

[00:07:17] Speaking of these other elected officials from Georgia, Mr. Barry Loudermilk, who was my former congressman, basically Northwest Metro Atlanta. 

[00:07:28] Bob Gatty: He really likes calling out this guy. You talk about him a lot. 

[00:07:33] Robert Thompson: The problem is and, the reason why is he's just as extreme as the rest of them, but nobody talks about him.

[00:07:41] Bob Gatty: Yeah. I never heard of him until you started talking about him. 

[00:07:44] Robert Thompson: Yeah. And, he's bankrolled. I, went out to f e C right before we went on the thing. He has thousands and thousands of donations as recent as the reporting deadline of March 31st. Wells Fargo, capital One, Southern Company, Georgia Power, at and t Delta, they're getting thousands of dollars going to the likes of Barry Laudermilk just because he's not as sensational, but they all vote the same. Yeah. And, nevermind. You've got George Santos from New York. They're keeping him outta jail so that he's like their last swing vote, because they have just barely a majority, if you want to call it that in the house. Yeah. This is what they've, got their, strings pulled together.

[00:08:32] But if you wanna know about Barry Laudermilk, I'll be glad to sit down. This is the guy that's calling for civility. I guess he's trying to be the Republican daddy of the group. I, don't know he, he needs to call next door to Marjorie cuz literally Marjorie's district is right next door to Barry's district.

[00:08:51] And, ask her to stop using five letter words that are not very ladylike on the house floor. If, he's calling for civility. 

[00:09:01] Bob Gatty: Is that why you wore your pearls today? 

[00:09:04] Robert Thompson: Yeah. Who, wouldn't clutch their pearls over this kind of act? Call her mama, is her mom happy that she's using this kind of stuff on the I, doubt it.

[00:09:15] Arthur Hill: So, this was on the record? This was on the record and she said it. 

[00:09:20] Robert Thompson: Yeah 

[00:09:21] Go figure. But also let's, continue about Mr. Loudermilk. He is also back on his merit act that he wants to fire federal workers who are not doing their job or were doing certain things while they were on the job.

[00:09:37] That this is coming from a guy that has not held a town hall in years and actually done his job, but Okay. They have also appointed Loudermilk. He is going to chair this special committee about January 6th. Now if, you remember, this is Loudermilk that was giving people tours the day before January 6th, down in the basement of the house.

[00:10:02] Cuz that's prime stuff. If, you want to go to DC , you want to go see the basement of the house and, see what's going on down there. 

[00:10:10] Bob Gatty: Oh yeah. 

[00:10:11] Arthur Hill: That's always been on my wishlist. 

[00:10:14] Robert Thompson: So, he's the perfect guy to lead the Republican? Yeah. 

[00:10:17] Bob Gatty: I give people tours in my basement, except we don't have one, so I can't do that.

[00:10:22] Arthur Hill: But I give people tours in my crawl space. 

[00:10:26] Robert Thompson: I think what you heard there is that you remember the Republicans talking about the big guy in the basement? Apparently it was Barry Loudermilk down in the basement of the Capitol building.

[00:10:37] This is the guy that Republicans think are going to lead their subcommittee on January 6th. Okay. The list just goes on and on. This is Loudermilk, he campaigned with child molester Josh Dugger, he vaccinated his kids, but sure enough keep on I'm gonna list you out again because follow the money and hit 'em in the, Wells Fargo Capital One Southern Company, Georgia Power at t Delta. Why are you giving money to these crazy people? I guess you're getting something out of it. You tell me. 

[00:11:10] Bob Gatty: You have another famous guy a more famous guy that's going to be in the news soon as a result of action in Georgia.

[00:11:18] His name is he is got initials, D J T. 

[00:11:21] Robert Thompson: Oh Be my guest. I, feel like the prosecutors across America are just standing online. Remember the JCPenney catalog line? You had to go in and take a number, and now serving that, imagine that with all the prosecutors across America.

[00:11:39] They're just waiting on their turn. It's is it gonna be me this month? Is it me next week? These indictments write themselves. He is the worst defendant in America. He really is the, case is right themselves. Yeah. So we'll see what happens to that. But that also segues into, so a week or two ago, the Georgia Republican party had their conference and they went all the way to Columbus, Georgia.

[00:12:08] If you're not sure where Columbus, Georgia is, it's right on the, border with Alabama. Maybe that was strategic, I'm not sure. But they did not hold the Georgia Republican conference in metro Atlanta, wounder why. And the current Governor, Kemp, he skipped it. He said you guys have fun.

[00:12:29] I'm, not gonna be a part of this. He was too busy actually kicking Georgians off Medicaid to worry about going to his own convention. There, but who is the new Georgia Republican chairman, Mr. Josh McCoon. By the way, he sings horrible karaoke. I've been, have had the pleasure years ago of actually being in the same establishment where we both sang karaoke and he is horrible.

[00:12:57] Bob Gatty: Any better? 

[00:12:59] Robert Thompson: I wanna say yes. It was all those years of church choir. There you go. Yes. It was all those years of church choir. I'm a good karaoke singer. 

[00:13:09] Bob Gatty: Oh yeah. Okay. I don't think, Hey, Arthur, do you 

[00:13:12] Robert Thompson: wanna hear a sample? Maybe we'll try one day. No. Oh 

[00:13:16] Arthur Hill: Sure. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Sing something.

[00:13:19] You used to sing in church choir. 

[00:13:21] Bob Gatty: Yeah. Let's hear something Robert. 

[00:13:24] Robert Thompson: But it is much better with background music. We'll have to do this and try to engineer a little better. It's, hard to do at acapella. 

[00:13:30] Bob Gatty: So What 

[00:13:33] Robert Thompson: I'm, a delicate snowflake with my pearls, so Pearl Yeah. So good luck Mr. Coon. What a task you have. You were gonna try to somewhat bring together what's left of the Georgia Republican Party. You have your standing governor that skipped out on you, and you've got basically scraps on the butcher floor.

[00:13:57] That you're gonna try to scrap together into some kind of sausage that I know have no interest in eating of, what's left with the Republican party here. 

[00:14:08] Bob Gatty: Yeah. Would you have no interest in eating? Is that what you said? 

[00:14:13] Arthur Hill: That's what he said. 

[00:14:14] Robert Thompson: Would you? No. W would you have any interest in the, rest of the, what the Republicans have thrown out on the butcher floor?

[00:14:23] Bob Gatty: Are you kidding? 

[00:14:25] Arthur Hill: I don't even have any interest in what they did not throw out. 

[00:14:28] Bob Gatty: Yeah, for sure. All right. You know what, I wanna know what you think is gonna come down with respect to a possible indictment in Georgia of Trump.

[00:14:40] Robert Thompson: Stay tuned. Especially it's coming in July Ms. Fannie Willis has said that she's not swayed by anything going on in Florida and these other things, and apparently it's gonna come in July, so stay tuned. 

[00:14:53] Bob Gatty: Okay. 

[00:14:54] Arthur Hill: Trump will have to go, he'll have to go to, to Atlanta and get his fingerprints taken again, right?

[00:15:00] Bob Gatty: Yeah, thank, we have a lot after all of this stuff. After 

[00:15:05] Robert Thompson: It's gonna be a campaign stop for him. It's gonna be a campaign stop for him. Remember? He, doesn't go anywhere unless before and after it's a campaign stop. By the way, I wanna point out, when he was in Florida, went to the courthouse promised to pay for everybody his meal. And of course he skipped out and didn't do it. Imagine that. 

[00:15:27] Arthur Hill: Yeah. Yeah. It stiffs the restaurant owner. 

[00:15:32] Bob Gatty: All right, so I wanna know what you guys think about these Republican candidates who are falling all over themselves about whether if they were elected president they would pardon Trump assuming that Trump is gonna need to be pardoned that they would, pardon Trump.

[00:15:55] They're just falling all over themselves. Some of 'em were, oh, yeah. Yeah. I would right away and, please Trump supporters support me and then other ones say I don't know. I don't know if I will. I think I should, but the guy is a crook and I don't know. So what do you guys think about all of that?

[00:16:16] Arthur Hill: I remember in the Nixon days that I remember how I felt when Ford pardoned Nixon. I, was working on the Senate at that time and my boss was one of the undecideds in terms of whether to convict. So we were kinda looking forward to being involved in that trial. And then all of a sudden Ford cut the legs out from underneath us and pardoned Nixon.

[00:16:46] Now I'm older and I probably wouldn't get as upset if he was pardoned. And I think it would really be fascinating to see if, what would happen if Biden pardoned him before the election, before election day 2024. I think that would cut the legs out from under Trump.

[00:17:06] And would, help out Biden a little bit. But as far as the, as far as his Republican challengers are concerned, the only guy I'm interested in listening to is Chris Christie. He seems to wanna be the only one to tell it like it is. But I don't think he said anything about pardons, at least not that I've read.

[00:17:26] Robert Thompson: How, embarrassing that you, you were the, two major parties we have here in the US and the debate point is whether you're gonna pardon the leader on that side of the fence. 

[00:17:39] Bob Gatty: Really? Yeah. The, guy who was the head of the world, I guess you could say.

[00:17:47] Anyway. These two yahoos that are running against Trump from South Carolina, Nikki Haley and what's this other guy's name? Senator Scott. Yeah, that's right. Senator Scott. Haley goes I'd be inclined to pardon him even though his actions on January 6th put first responders in danger.

[00:18:14] But then she dragged in the plea deal between the Justice Department and Hunter Biden, saying that there's a double standard and it's what the Republicans are all doing now. They're jumping on that and they're saying they're treating Trump like shit. They're gonna indict him, they're gonna convict him, he's gonna go to jail.

[00:18:36] But look at what they do with Hunter Biden and they just slap on the wrist. And so there's a double standard one for Republicans and one for Democrats, which is just total crap. Yeah. Isn't, the person that, that is behind the hunter Biden deal that person was appointed by Trump, right?

[00:19:01] Arthur Hill: The, prosecutor was appointed by Trump, and the judge was appointed by Trump. 

[00:19:05] Bob Gatty: Yeah. So come on. 

[00:19:08] Robert Thompson: So I'm, gonna give you nicknames cuz you know, Republicans are great about giving Democrats nicknames. Nikki Haley's nickname is Karen. Karen and, Tim Scott is Token. 

[00:19:20] So you got Token and Karen from South Carolina and, they hope to get to the White House. 

[00:19:25] Bob Gatty: Those are good that, those are good nicknames. Yeah. All right and, then Haley this one really got me too. She accused Barack Obama of dividing America by race and gender because he took issue with her claim that America is not racist.

[00:19:46] Now wasn't it her old boss, excuse me, who set out to divide America that way and was spectacularly successful. Wasn't it her old boss, Donald Trump that did that? 

[00:20:00] Robert Thompson: It look, it looks pretty beneficial to them is they got a black senator in South Carolina. 

[00:20:06] Bob Gatty: Yeah. That's right. 

[00:20:09] Robert Thompson: I, this whole, oh my God, I, where do I start again?

[00:20:14] Token and Karen, those are their new names. Run with it. 

[00:20:18] Bob Gatty: Haley, to me, Haley should just shut up. She said that, a lot of times people support Haley cuz they think that she did a good thing when she got rid of the Confederate flag at the capitol in Columbia. At the State House in Columbia when she was governor, but then the Washington Post did an a story the other day saying that she was forced to do that because of the massacre at that church in Charleston where all those people were killed while they were trying to pray. Prior to that, she had said that the confederate flag was about heritage.

[00:21:02] So it just, it is hypocritical again just typical hypocritical bullshit.

[00:21:07] Arthur Hill: A lot of people supported her in doing that, and I don't, I think a lot of folks still remember that. They don't remember the circumstances surrounding it as much, but she does get credit for, doing that.

[00:21:20] And and, for a while there she was I, thought that she would make a really good candidate for the Republican party for President. What's happened and what she's done since then washes that away. She's just turned into another Trump acolyte, but at least for a little while there, she got a little bit of credit across the board.

[00:21:42] Bipartisan credit for, taking down that flag. 

[00:21:45] Bob Gatty: Yeah, she did. But apparently It wasn't all that altruistic what she did. Now, the other day, Scott visited Myrtle Beach. He had a pretty good crowd. The local press interviewed some people at the event and the people that they interviewed that I saw in the report, in the local report, said that they were Trump people and they like Scott, but they wanted Scott as a VP nominee not as president cuz they were gonna support Trump. Even though Trump has got some problems, some of 'em acknowledged, Trump has some problems. Imagine that. Yeah. So, to me though, that's the, angle that both of those people are playing, don't you think that they're, saying they're running for president, but they're really running for vice president. You agree with that or not? 

[00:22:49] Arthur Hill: They're never gonna admit it. Yeah. They are they, might talk about it amongst themselves or, with their staff or that sort of thing, but they're, never gonna admit publicly that they're running for vice president. They're gonna insist until their dying day that they wanna sit in the Oval Office. 

[00:23:06] Bob Gatty: Yeah, so I, don't know. 

[00:23:10] Arthur Hill: I don't know. And pundits can say, oh, they'd make that'd be a good vice presidential candidate, and that's probably what they're going for.

[00:23:16] But you're never gonna hear them say that. 

[00:23:19] Bob Gatty: Exactly. 

[00:23:21] Robert Thompson: The clown car still sure is full. I don't know where they, have to add to several trailers on this clown car cause it's packed full? 

[00:23:30] Arthur Hill: I guess there's gonna be a lot of vice presidents. 

[00:23:33] Bob Gatty: A lot of vice presidents.

[00:23:36] That's presuming Trump gets elected. As, for Trump, he's scheduled to make his first visit to South Carolina since being twice indicted on Saturday, July 1st at the City of Pickens ahead of their Independence Day celebration. That ought to be really interesting.

[00:23:59] Arthur Hill: Are you gonna go? 

[00:24:00] Bob Gatty: Am I gonna go? Yeah. I'm half tempted to go and take my mike and interview some people, but that would mean I'd have to actually work and do some work in the field. And that's I don't know if I have the energy to do that.

[00:24:20] Arthur Hill: Would you wear your t-shirt? 

[00:24:22] Bob Gatty: I could wear my t-shirt. I could wear the one that shows ketchup up against the wall, that time come threw the ketchup up against the wall. Anyway. All right, so down here we're gonna have a gerrymandering case before the Supreme Court too, I think.

[00:24:42] Earlier this month, they upheld a prohibition against racial gerrymandering in Alabama. And that was a surprise. They agreed to consider a lower court decision that struck down a congressional district as an illegal racial gerrymander. Now, Here in South Carolina a lower court held that the Congressional district that includes Charleston, it's now represented by Republican. Nancy Mace, constituted an unconstitutional racial gerrymander in violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment because race was a predominant factor in the adoption of the plan. South Carolina Republicans asked the Supreme Court to take the case up, arguing that the Republican-LED legislature, took politics into consideration when drawing their map not race.

[00:25:45] So given the Alabama decision, it'll be interesting, I think, to see what the conservative dominated Supreme Court does in this South Carolina case, which I think the results would've broad ramifications nationally. What do you guys think about all that?

[00:26:05] Arthur Hill: What's the difference between that case and the Alabama case?

[00:26:08] Bob Gatty: I. I don't know. But the thing is that that was a surprise at Alabama case that 

[00:26:17] Robert Thompson: Tomato, ketchup,. Yeah. 

[00:26:21] Arthur Hill: Yeah, it seems as Kavanaugh said during his Senate confirmation hearings, that's all settled law right now. Now 

[00:26:30] Bob Gatty: They also said abortion was settled law.

[00:26:32] Arthur Hill: Why would the US Supreme Court wanna review a decision it just made in the light of another case that's broadly similar to the one they just considered. I don't understand. 

[00:26:43] Bob Gatty: Good question. 

[00:26:44] Arthur Hill: But I guess we'll find out. 

[00:26:46] Bob Gatty: Yep. So there was another development here in South Carolina.

[00:26:50] It's not as far reaching as, a gerrymandering case, but it's really important I think. And that is this local community, Conway, which is the county seat of Horry County, which is where Myrtle Beach is. Conway their mayor and city council had passed a resolution , a harmless resolution, meaningless resolution, really, declaring June to be pride month.

[00:27:24] They had this hearing the other, a meeting the other day at the at the council chambers, and it was packed with preachers and Religious conservatives who showed up and claimed that it was a bad thing that the city of Conway shouldn't be doing that, that once again brought out the old trope about marriage being between a man and a woman and all that stuff, and one guy had a sign something about Jesus and just on and on, and I'm, it's just, to me, it's disgusting. The resolution basically said that L G B T Q residents deserve to feel safe and respected in their homes, neighborhoods, schools, and workplaces. Now, what I wanna know is, why is that objectable to anybody?

[00:28:26] Robert Thompson: Because the crazy Bible thumpers told 'em to say that. Yeah. It's the you've got a billboard here in Marietta, Georgia. You've got some crazy non-denominational church over here that has put up a billboard with pride colors on it saying that that they feel safe to be delivered or something like that.

[00:28:48] If, you go and follow the money, I believe the news stories are out there, this whole stuff, and we've talked about it several times on our episodes.

[00:28:57] That have been written and some of them have been successful and pasted, where did they come from? It's these literally these crazy evangelical extreme right wing people that are out there trying to get this stuff passed. And just because Karen said such and such that they're all on their bandwagon and they only show up when, you know that they feel like they have a, band of 10 or 12 people that are gonna do this. And it's the same old story over and over again. 

[00:29:32] Arthur Hill: Yeah. It's an absolute unjustifiable and unquantitative panic that's going on in the Republican party.

[00:29:41] The, general assembly here is getting ready to pass. A bill that outlaws transgenders in athletics, in athletics contests. Do you know how many transgender girls have applied to play for girls sports programs in high school in the last 10 years in North Carolina? Four.

[00:30:05] Wow. Yeah. Four. That's it. And so we've gotta take up the time of the whole general assembly to pass a law that because they're pissed off at four kids who wanted to play sports at the expense of the pride and the wellbeing and the and, the peace of every transgender girl and boy in the state.

[00:30:30] It just, it's crazy. It's just absolutely crazy. 

[00:30:34] Bob Gatty: Yeah, that's, that seems to be going on all over the country and we've talked about that before. It's just it's, to me, it's just terrible the way they're treating people. But once again, it's just typical of the Republican Party, in my opinion.

[00:30:51] Yep. You guys got anything else you wanna talk about? Yeah, I wanna talk about DeSantis. Oh, okay. Go. 

[00:30:58] Arthur Hill: There was an article, I think it was in the Times this week about how he keeps changing the way he pronounces his name. Did you see that? 

[00:31:06] Bob Gatty: No.

[00:31:07] Arthur Hill: First, at first he called himself Duh Santis.

[00:31:12] Duh Santis. Yeah. And so I, think probably his staff said probably not a good idea for a guy running for president to have, a name that begins with duh. 

[00:31:21] So, he started calling himself DE Santis, And we're, looking forward to, finding out what the next iteration of his name is.

[00:31:32] So that, that would, that apparently has been a real problem inside the duh DeSantis campaign. 

[00:31:37] Robert Thompson: I guess he got tired of DeathSantis. 

[00:31:40] Arthur Hill: Yeah, that's true. Yeah. 

[00:31:42] Bob Gatty: All I got to say is duh. 

[00:31:44] Arthur Hill: But he just keeps falling further and further back, doesn't he? He is just he does. 

[00:31:50] Bob Gatty: It's pitiful 

[00:31:52] Arthur Hill: what a deflated balloon 

[00:31:53] Robert Thompson: and that's the best chance they have.

[00:31:55] Arthur Hill: Yeah. 

[00:31:56] Robert Thompson: , Pence was on Fox News with that cali McInerney or whoever the other day, he was all fired up. I was like, 

[00:32:03] Bob Gatty: I've never seen Pence fired up. 

[00:32:04] Robert Thompson: You've got this, commotion and this chaos, and I don't know. I, was like, who is this? Mike Pence.

[00:32:13] Bob Gatty: You said he was fired. 

[00:32:14] Robert Thompson: It was like the, yeah, it was like the lizard people that snatched his body and he was literally fired up about something. I was like, where did this come from?

[00:32:23] But he is a biker now too, so he, was in leather the other day riding his bike through Iowa. Wow. I dunno where that came from either. Yeah, 

[00:32:31] Bob Gatty: he was riding a motorcycle. 

[00:32:33] Robert Thompson: Yeah. Who knew that Mike Pence wears leather and rides motorcycles? 

[00:32:38] Arthur Hill: Does, mother go with him? 

[00:32:40] Robert Thompson: Exactly. I Is she on the back?

[00:32:43] I don't know. 

[00:32:43] Arthur Hill: In the backseat. Yeah, that's right. 

[00:32:45] Bob Gatty: Maybe that's how he gets rid of the fly on his forehead when he 

[00:32:49] Arthur Hill: I was thinking of that. I was

[00:32:52] Robert Thompson: Bless heart. 

[00:32:54] Bob Gatty: Yeah. Oh, all right guys. There we have it. Another episode of the Dixie Dems, which I think is just Wonderful show. I hope you guys are enjoying it because this is true insight that we are throwing out to you 

[00:33:14] Arthur Hill: take it to the bank. 

[00:33:17] Bob Gatty: What'd you say? 

[00:33:18] Arthur Hill: Take it to the bank.

[00:33:19] Bob Gatty: Yeah, take it to the bank. Okay guys, thanks for hanging in there with us. 

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